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bedford cf2 engine swop out for banana engined transit engine

hi all
i am swoping my engine as title tells
I will post pictures about how its gone etc when i figure it out lol
Marc

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Sun 12 Aug 2012 @ 15:33 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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Hello Marc,
Here's a few pointers that might help you:







Rae & Ann

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Sun 12 Aug 2012 @ 17:19 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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yup thats pretty much where i am
Many thanks Guys
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Hello Marc,
Just out of interest, type 9 or 75?
The good thing about using a di engine, Ann and myself never argued whilst we were in the van driving.

Rae & Ann

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rae&annwaters wrote:
Hello Marc,
Just out of interest, type 9 or 75?
The good thing about using a di engine, Ann and myself never argued whilst we were in the van driving.

Rae & Ann


I can vouch for that Jacz & I never argued while we're in our DI powered van

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ukmarc wrote:
bedford cf2 engine swop out for banana engined transit engine


Hello Marc,
I think if I was doing an engine swap now I would go for a 2lt Pinto..saurus engine and go for LPG. Though there's nothing wrong with the di engine and I used one for four years (trouble free), well until the pump started leaking, LPG seems to be the cheaper option especially if you can get a head that runs on unleaded.

Rae & Ann

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I remember seeing a transplant that looked very interesting with a 2.3 Scorpio engine:-

http://www.bedfordcf.co.uk/mboard/thread.php?id=8762

but can't see any follow up to this. It would be interesting to see how c20spit got on.

I have feelers out for a modern Transit with rear end damage as it would seem you need to transplant not only engine/gearbox but also all the wiring associated with ECU's and immobilisers. Life is so complicated.

Has anyone gone down the route of trigger ignition, after-market ECU and single point (or throttle bodies) on the CF engine?

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NickG38 wrote:
Has anyone gone down the route of trigger ignition,


Hello Nick,
Here's one I made earlier but changed direction due to the availability of the Bosch electronic ignition.



As you can see all the components were assembled and this was me just testing them and, hey presto, it worked.

Rae & Ann

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Hello Rae,

Is that a Ford EDIS system? Does that also work out the correct ignition advance?

Nick

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NickG38 wrote:
Is that a Ford EDIS system?


Hello Nick,
No it's not, it's an ESC which is very similar to the EDIS system; easily recognisible by it's red plastic front: unfortunately not shown in the photograph. The ESC was originally off a mk3 Fiesta, and is a self-contained mapped ignition system that won't work with a megajolt/megasquirt as opposed to the EDIS unit which requires megajolt/squirt to work properly . The EDIS system will work without megajolt/squirt but only on its limp home mode, which is stuck at 10 degrees.
Hope this helps Nick. Don't know much about them only that the banger boys love them and also there's lots of information online.

Rae & Ann

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Hello Rae,
Thanks for that info, I have looked this up online and as you say there is lots of information there. It does seem a lot simpler than the megasquirt/jolt systems as it doesn't involve fitting a load of other sensors. What I was hoping for was somebody having gone with a single point injection system, megasquirt/jolt ECU and trigger wheel ignition as I don't have the time to do the prototyping. There is a garage near me called Bogg Brothers and they do bike carb conversions onto all sorts of engines, A series, Vauxhall Red Tops and Rover V8's in conjunction with aftermarket ECU's so I might go and pick their brains!!

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Transplant complete
Not quite a ten minute job lol
And sooooooo noisy time for soundproofing me thinks lol
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ukmarc wrote:
sooooooo noisy


Hello Mark,
I spent a small fortune on soundproofing when we had our di in the Beddie. It made some difference but not a lot; even the radio didn't make any difference. Would love to see some photographs of your conversion.

Rae & Ann

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Will post some after I return from whitby
Did you manage to get it any quiter ?
Marc
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ukmarc wrote:
Did you manage to get it any quiter ?


Hello Marc,
In a word, yes. I tried numerous types of sound-proofing, even contemplated roof felt, the stuff you heat up with a torch before laying it down and I would still stand by that as a very cheap option of insulating the floor. The biggest gain in sound reduction was making sure there were no holes and the cover fitted properly. All these things put together made the van useable for long trips.

Rae & Ann

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Sat 27 Oct 2012 @ 18:41 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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Fantastic news thanks you
I'm going to go to a scrap yard and take some sound proofing off a scrap transit and pack on bulkhead and underlay the cab
Let you know soon

Marc
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Hello Marc,
I was lead to believe, now whether this is true or not I have no way of proving it, but seemingly BMW have the best sound-proofing under their bonnets etc.

Rae & Ann

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Thanks for the heads up on that
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